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    Subject: Re: layers of truth
    Date: May 6, 2002
    Sender: JemPrevious | Next

    Looking for layers - no great movie reveals all in one viewing. I have seen this 3 times:first the sex and death storyline (english subtitles are not the whole story): second the social background: and third looking at the unequal relationship between the young men - it is a competition that the "preppie" always wins, from swimming, to sex with Luisa, to a university place. Luisa knows. Her last words to them: "Life is like the surf: you have to give yurself like the sea" - they can't live up to it, sexually or as social equals. As a parent and worker with teenagers I would beg them to see and understand what this movie says - and try to treat all their relationships with respect. But here in England it is R18 and very limited distribution.

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    layers of truth

    I think it is interesting how truth slowly comes out in the movie. At first we think the wife is so upset when her husband tells her he slept with someone else that she leaves with the kids. But on the phone when he tells her her response is "Why did you tell me" not "You bastard". In fact she later reveals she knew all along he was cheating so he hurt her by telling her, not actually cheating. He broke the contract of silencel. And that is the theme throughout. The boys cant accept they are attracted to each other right until the end when she exposes the truth to them. And the final taboo "you mother fucker" comes right at the end. And then there is all the stuff about society, pigs shitting all over the beach (who are the pigs representing), class, death - do we want to go back to teenage frenzy when death comes knocking? Lots of stuff to think on besides a wank in the pool on a hot afternoon.






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  • Its Great   from Mayra Vega, Mar 14, 2002
  • Esta Chida   from Lupita, Mar 14, 2002
  • Que buena onda   from Elizabeth, Mar 14, 2002
  • Its the best   from Mayra Ortega, Mar 14, 2002
  • cOoL!!   from VaL=), Mar 15, 2002
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  • good but....   from lil one, Mar 24, 2002
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  • Re: good but....   from Michele, Mar 31, 2002
  • VERGAS   from Cesar Daniel Bedolla, Apr 19, 2002
  • Re: good but....   from Mick, May 3, 2003
  • a woman's film   from K., Dec 7, 2002
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  • Just a pair of wankers...   from Paula Wayne, Apr 23, 2002
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  • about time...   from karina, Feb 25, 2002
  • Its Great   from Mayra Vega, Mar 14, 2002
  • Esta Chida   from Lupita, Mar 14, 2002
  • Que buena onda   from Elizabeth, Mar 14, 2002
  • Its the best   from Mayra Ortega, Mar 14, 2002
  • cOoL!!   from VaL=), Mar 15, 2002
  • Muy buena pelicula   from Esmeralda Aguirre, Mar 17, 2002
  • coming of age   from ken, Mar 17, 2002
  • Re: coming of age   from Steph, Mar 23, 2002
  • Re: coming of age   from Patricio, Oct 7, 2002
  • Re: coming of age   from momo, Dec 2, 2005
  • Re: coming of age   from xtn, Sep 1, 2003
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  • Re: Gael/Diego are amazing!   from Gabriella, Apr 7, 2005
  • good but....   from lil one, Mar 24, 2002
  • Luisa is Mexico   from Popocatepetl, Mar 28, 2002
  • Re: Luisa is Mexico   from Juan, Mar 31, 2002
  • Re: Luisa is Mexico   from CittyCat16, Nov 18, 2002
  • Re: good but....   from Michele, Mar 31, 2002
  • VERGAS   from Cesar Daniel Bedolla, Apr 19, 2002
  • Re: good but....   from Mick, May 3, 2003
  • a woman's film   from K., Dec 7, 2002
  • Re: a woman's film   from Jack's raging bile duct, Jul 3, 2003
  • its agreat movie   from mario molina, Mar 26, 2002
  • interesting cool movie   from jesse, Mar 31, 2002
  • Re: interesting cool movie   from smoke, Apr 23, 2002
  • It's Great   from Juan, Mar 31, 2002
  • What?   from Rio, Mar 31, 2002
  • Embarrassment factor   from Juan, Apr 15, 2002
  • Re: Embarrassment factor   from Maria, Apr 17, 2002
  • pelicula excellente   from groovehouse, Apr 3, 2002
  • This movie is good? Yeah, riiiight...   from speaker of truth, Apr 4, 2002
  • Re: This movie is good? Yeah, riiiight...   from Chris, Apr 8, 2002
  • Re: This movie is good? Yeah, riiiight...   from Bobby, Apr 12, 2002
  • The "Whole Gay Thing"!   from Maggie, Nov 18, 2002
  • Re: The   from flower, Apr 8, 2003
  • Re: The   from Tomas, Apr 2, 2004
  • Re: This movie is good? Yeah, riiiight...   from Marty Cadwell (mcdetroit), Apr 21, 2002
  • Re: This movie is good? Yeah, riiiight...   from daniel, Jun 6, 2003
  • Re: This movie is good? Yeah, riiiight...   from joyce, Jul 8, 2007
  • Dear 'speaker of truth'   from David, Aug 27, 2002
  • Re: This movie is good? Yeah, riiiight...   from bothy, Oct 31, 2002
  • Re: This movie is good? Yeah, riiiight...   from apologist, Aug 15, 2003
  • Re: This movie is good? Yeah, riiiight...   from xtn cosca, Sep 3, 2003
  • Excellent movie!!!   from xarmen, Apr 5, 2002
  • Music   from Consuelo, Apr 6, 2002
  • Re: Music   from Bobby, Apr 12, 2002
  • Re: Music   from Frank, May 14, 2003
  • A great film   from a fan, Apr 7, 2002
  • [no subject]   from Aurora, Apr 10, 2002
  • last line....   from abba, Apr 13, 2002
  • Re: last line....   from Samantha Fought, May 11, 2002
  • Did nothing for me   from Greg Wyard, Apr 21, 2002
  • Re: Did nothing for me   from , Apr 22, 2002
  • Re: Did nothing for me   from smoke, Apr 23, 2002
  • Y tu mama tambien: erotism, politics and one's own   from Antonio Serna, Apr 22, 2002
  • Just a pair of wankers...   from Paula Wayne, Apr 23, 2002
  • Re: Just a pair of wankers...   from smoke, Apr 23, 2002
  • And not a deep and...   from Paula Wayne, Apr 24, 2002
  • layers of truth   from MikeC, Apr 28, 2002
  • » Re: layers of truth «   from Jem, May 6, 2002
  • See another movie, not this one!!!   from Paco Crow, May 8, 2002
  • Re: See another movie, not this one!!!   from Daniel, Oct 28, 2002
  • Re: U dont need 2 take it seriously   from carlo, Aug 28, 2003
  • Re: See another movie, not this one!!!   from David Garcia, Feb 4, 2003
  • Foreign Films!   from Samantha Fought, May 11, 2002
  • Re: Foreign Films!   from Drusilla Fart, May 13, 2002
  • Re: Foreign Films!   from norman, Dec 11, 2002
  • Superb! In my top ten of all time   from Heidi, May 22, 2002
  • Re: Superb! In my top ten of all time   from Amelie, May 23, 2002
  • Re: Superb! In my top ten of all time   from heidi, Jun 4, 2002
  • y tu mama tambien   from tamale, Jun 10, 2002
  • Self-indulgent dross   from Mary Wagner, Jul 2, 2002
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  • I LOVE YOU MARáBEL   from mustafa tekinaslan, Jul 5, 2002
  • i met him!!   from Jaime, Jul 18, 2002
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  • Re: i met him!!   from Juan, Aug 19, 2002
  • Re: i met him!!   from Yvette, Aug 20, 2002
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  • Y tu   from valerie Jones, Oct 16, 2002
  • puto el q le valla al america   from hugo, Nov 13, 2002
  • Re: puto el q le valla al america   from ilconde, Jul 25, 2004
  • picaresque   from juanito, Dec 10, 2002
  • when is it coming to australia on dvd   from pathman, Jan 28, 2003
  • the best   from anton, Mar 19, 2003
  • [no subject]   from Meri, Mar 24, 2003
  • Gael   from Lindsey, Mar 28, 2003
  • The movie was great!!   from flower, Apr 8, 2003
  • good   from gabriel, Oct 21, 2003
  • this really happens   from daniel bellone><br> , Oct 21, 2003
  • INCREIBLE!!!   from MaZZa, Jan 14, 2004
  • great movie   from lisa, Jan 2, 2005
  • sexy...   from Caitlin, Feb 20, 2005
  • I love Diego!!   from Jessica, Mar 8, 2005
  • I love you diego luna   from Viviana, Mar 9, 2005
  • y tu mama tambien   from jade, Mar 10, 2005
  • Re: y tu mama tambien   from Kizzes, Mar 11, 2005
  • i love diego luna it is my dream to meet him   from jade dakin, Mar 11, 2005
  • diego luna is hot   from ashley, Apr 17, 2005
  • WTF?!   from Soneji75, May 15, 2005
  • simply beautiful   from ANDRE, Sep 27, 2005
  • Alfonso & Carlos Cuaron   from Dena Denslow, Dec 31, 2005
  • i love it   from jorrel, May 3, 2006
  • Hate the DVD commentary   from Ben, Oct 11, 2006
  • The music not on the soundtrack   from Jeroen, Oct 25, 2007