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Date: Jan 22, 2002
It's been almost 2 weeks since I saw Mulholland drive. I think there is a chance I'll go again with some of my movie going co-workers in Seattle as I'll be up there for 4 days & nights.
My memory of the two scenes of the women as lovers came into contrast the last two days. Here is what the scenes tel me.
On the second sexual event there was little to no innocence and feelings were all right out there.
The more innocent events were a juxtaposition built in fantacy I believe. The what if mind of the guilt ridden lover/killer.
Diane became Betty to be closer to her memory of life before she collected all her L.A. "vices".
She'd also collected some very nice memories of preformances. (The series of stage illutions)
Betty did correctly what Diane had known she could do but chose not to do. Eventually Betty disapears because she comes to the limits of the energy of Diane's imagination. Her lover is left alone in the annts apartment and finds a blue box. She trys the odd blue key in the box and the innocent amnisiatic Rita dissapears for the rest of the film.
Soon we see the real "Rita" that was in the first limo scene. We also See Diane in the same limo scene only instead of a getting gunned down she gets brought down by the "Vamp" It is time to ask, "Which Lio scene is the real one?"
I say the second for a couple reasons.
1. The hit man she hired was a face value not a team player & I doubt he contracted the job to anyone else.
2. Diane recieved a let down after stepping out of the limo. Picturing her Vamp lover getting lead poisoning while stepping out of a Limo was (My guess) what launched Diane into the mind to have her Vamp killed.
When our miserable Diane is trying to relive the (pleasure of?) murder she imagined and paid for she makes a different reality.
Diane never knew how the killing took place just that it did take place. (blue key on the coffee table when the neighbor came by to get her stuff. Parting comment of the neighbor? I believe it was "Those detectives came by again looking for you."
Soon the two minature elderly people come under her door (They enlarge and begin to pummel) and Diane runs to her bedroom to take one very fatal pain pill.
This film asks many good questions about human behavior I believe. It also asks the viewer to ponder the state of being that commits suicide induced by many emotions and desires.
For me it stirred memories of a childhood sence of guilt. I thought I'd left it behind me but I believe the seed could grow within me if I were to give it the right conditions.
No other movie has induced that for me.
Steven B
P.S.I think having expectations due to comparissons of other Lynch prodjects could effect ones view of Mulholland Drive. So could knowing the film was , in part, scenes from a pilot effect a viewers take. I think the cancelled show brought Lynch the desire to take a few swings at LA . Just as the TV show was called DOA he turned the film into a few minutes of true memory and over two hours of fantacy recall. He serves up a success from a suicide death to those who thought they pulled the plug on Lynch.
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the first web-site, where 'normal' moviegoers posted some thoughts about this spooky film...
i have seen the movie just last night and since then, i'm re-thinking what i've seen.
after checking a few websites related to the movie, i realized, that this movie wasn't meant to be a 'movie' in the beginning. it should have become a tv-series like twin peaks, but was cut to a 2 1/2 hours teasing thing (like an apŽro before a goog dinner... but the dinner may never takes place). so i am sure, that much of the filmplot is only showed in its beginning, asking more questions than giving answers. therefore i am convinced, that not every track, lynch opens, must have a true end or so.
i agree with steven, that the movie is (partly) retold out of the eyes of betty (well, more out of the eyes of diane, who was the product of betty after getting into the business of hollywood). but this is, i believe, only the last quarter of the movie. diane, drugged, deceived (she doesnt get the filmroles, she thougt she was meant for), desillusionized and left by camilla (a bisexual vamp), realises during/after the wedding-announcement-party, the she will lose camilla and will never become a star. so she hires the hitman, who got hit by a car himself (this happens in the first quarter of the movie).
in contrary to steven, i think that in the first half of the movie we see the story through the eyes of the surviving camilla, who was not killed by the hitman. she suffers of amnesia and then tries to get her memory back. after a short time (hiding in an appartement, which possibly could belong to the aunt of diane...), she finds diane, who had committed suicide. she, diane, was hounted by the 'ghosts' of her parents/grandparents/her conscience and couldnt stand it any longer to live a life so much different than expected when she came from canada to l.a.
on this journey of camilla, now i can agree with steven, the soul of diane accompanies (and perhaps helps) camilla in search of her identity and, as she doesnt know from the beginning, her pal (do you remeber the scene and especially the face of camilla, when she left appartement 17 after seeing the shot diane... the face of 'betty' in the same scene seemed to me to be very different). so we also see the movie trough the eyes of the dead diane.
in my eyes, the movie is like a huge 'Q'. after a short intro we go on a long tour (about three quarter of the movie) and then, in the end, get a short attempt of an explanetion, how it all could have taken place (even if its only in the 'mind' of the soul of diane, who cant find rest after having given the order to kill her girlfriend and destroy all her dreams).
also knowing, that my explanetion bases on only one (re)view of the movie, i think i will review it once or twice. i loved whatching twin peaks, so i think (knowing, that mullholland dr. wasnt actually meant to be a full movie) also in this movie, many of the questions are not to answer.
so feel free to recomment on this posting, perhaps we find out more...
michael (switzerland)
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