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  •  READER COMMENTS

    Reader comments on What the Bleep Do We Know?

    Subject: Undisputed facts
    Date: Oct 6, 2004
    Sender: diggingdeeperPrevious | Next

    Undisputed facts with regard to the fim and film makers.

    Go see the film. It has great potential as an exellent example of how good propaganda of this sort is getting and what one is willing to do to produce it.

    See the following:

    1. In addition to the films three directors, there were actors and others involved in the production who are long time "students" of Ramthas' School of enlightenment.

    2. A disproportionate amount of time was given in voice and film to Ramtha, Dr. Joe dispenza, and Miceal Ledwith.

    3. Dr Joe Dispenza and Miceal Ledwith are both long time students and "appointed teachers at Ramthas' school of enlightenment (RSE)

    4. Dr Joe Dispenza (the one who creates his day) has gone to court and testified that his teacher (ramtha) has told him that terrible times are coming and that he needs to protect his family. He also invested over $10,000.00 in an infamous scam that infected RSE and was touted by Ramtha as a vehicle to gain fabulous wealth and many of the schools membership lost substantial sums of money. Some lost their entire life savings.
    This is the person who teaches the brain science in RSE.

    5.Miceal Ledwith a clergyman with a rather dubious past (see Link) is the one chosen by the film makers to be the theological spokesman. He is also the theologian in residence of RSE.
    He also has been marketing several products within the school and its followers. Guess that could not have been done to easily in the Catholic church.

    6. The following persons in the film have all spoken at RSE and sold books there.

    Fred Allen Wolf
    Dr Candice Pert
    Amit Gotswami
    John Haglin
    Joe Dispenza
    Miceal Ledwith
    and of course the big guy himself, Ramtha

    7. One of the scientists who was in the film and had never appeared at the school is Dr David Albert Professor and Director of Philosophical Physics at Columbia university.
    He has stated in several venues that his views were totally misrepresented in the film. He claims that in over 5 hours of interviews he explained to the film makers why their concept of how Quantum Physics works has virtually no support in the scientific community.
    He even called in to a radio program the director was on to discuss this and was cut off. The host of the show said this was done because it was "negative"
    so much for no good or bad, that is unless it is convienent.

    8. To date, there has been no response as to where the information which lead to the story about the indians not being able to see the ships of Columbus originated from. There appears to be no evidence to support this claim. In addition, the film mentioned "clipper ships" which were not even in existence at that time. Perhaps that is why they couldn't see them.

    There were many more, but I will leave them for others. If anyone has any information to refute any of the facts laid out here, I will be more then willing to retract them.

    They are relevant because of the deliberateness on the part of the film makers to keep certain facts unknown (ironically, it is I making the unknown know) and misrepresent others.

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    Response to this comment:
    What an oafish review

    When I read reviews like Joshua Tanzer's, it becomes clear why the world is in such a state of disorder and hatred.

    This reviewer sets himself up as a expert, but really it is easy to criticize another's work or another's opinion.

    Obviously this critic had his review already written before he went to the theater, because the people who see the movie without prior bias not only enjoy the film, but also find it thought provoking and very much worth seeing again.

    If the movie were such crap as the critic maintains, it is highly unlikely that people would want to spend another $7 or $8 to see it.

    What a relief it was not to see bridges blown up and cars racing in suicidal chases, and beating and bludgeoning other human beings into either insensibility or tenderized meat for a body bag.

    My advice: Listen to your own voice! Create your own reality!
    Ignore the so-called experts, such as the critic Joshua Tanzer, who fear they might lose control if too many people started practicing "loving their bodies" and disregarding all the authority figures who dictate every move and thought people are allowed to make from the cradle to the grave.

    This critique reminded me of a scene in What The Bleep Do We Know? where Amanda stands in front of a mirror and...

    Well, I don't want to deny you the right to see it yourself :-)






    Comment index:

  • Hmmmmmm   from aguynamedguyinTX, Sep 10, 2004
  • Re: Hmmmmmm   from naeemah, Apr 24, 2005
  • What an oafish review   from Roberto Mazzarella, Sep 15, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Greg, Sep 30, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from David, Oct 4, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Alex, May 14, 2006
  • Re: What an oafish review   from John Chiara, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Dean, Mar 21, 2005
  • Re: What an oafish review   from John Chiara, Apr 3, 2005
  • Re: What an oafish review   from ling, Jul 10, 2006
  • Re: What an oafish review   from errol Sakia, Apr 24, 2005
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Dulbass, Jan 30, 2006
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Alissa, Oct 17, 2006
  • Re: What an oafish review   from B.Bones, Dec 6, 2006
  • » Undisputed facts «   from diggingdeeper, Oct 6, 2004
  • Re: Undisputed facts   from John Chiara, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Undisputed facts   from Snow Miller, Aug 1, 2005
  • Re: Undisputed facts   from Alex, May 14, 2006
  • Re: What an oafish review   from brad schuster, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from John Chiara, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Brenden, Nov 25, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from John Chiara, Nov 27, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Kappy, Dec 15, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from physics friend, Nov 24, 2004
  • oafish, I think red-neck review is more accurate   from Ricardo Hambina, Apr 24, 2005
  • Re: oafish, I think red-neck review is more accura   from Peace Warrior, Jun 25, 2005
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Helen, Jun 12, 2005
  • Re: What an oafish review   from jafagal, Feb 13, 2006
  • Re: What an oafish review   from james carey, Jul 10, 2006
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Ummm....eh, Dec 21, 2006
  • I can't wait to see it!   from Bill, Sep 23, 2004
  • Best movie ever!!   from Sandi, Sep 24, 2004
  • Re: this movie is pseudoscientfic propaganda piece   from John Chiara, Nov 24, 2004
  • What the Bleep   from sihem, Jun 8, 2006
  • A scientist's review   from LTV, Nov 24, 2004
  • Don't waste your money   from Mike, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Don't waste your money   from John Chiara, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Don't waste your money   from brad schuster, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Don't waste your money   from John Chiara, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Don't waste your money   from steph, Nov 25, 2004
  • Re: Don't waste your money   from , Nov 27, 2004
  • Wake Up!   from Steve, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Wake Up!   from bonnie, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Wake Up!   from Ray Van Gelder, Apr 3, 2005
  • Re: Wake Up!   from John Chiara, Apr 3, 2005
  • What the bleep do we know   from Tommie Sue, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: What the bleep do we know   from Bobcham, Nov 24, 2004
  • it's an artistic interpretaion   from joe, Nov 24, 2004
  • People don't Get It!!!!   from John Chiara, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: People don't Get It!!!!   from Linda Paul, Mar 18, 2005
  • Re: People don't Get It!!!!   from John Chiara, Apr 3, 2005
  • bleep   from Belmo, Nov 29, 2004
  • What the Bleep do we Know   from Jean Mather, Dec 9, 2004
  • What the bleep not a good but dont be hating   from jeffrey, Dec 30, 2004
  • Bring it east! I've heard....   from Barbara Flynn, Jan 7, 2005
  • big mistake...   from Kram, Jan 8, 2005
  • Oh, Joy   from Brent Butt, Jan 30, 2005
  • Another cult recruitment film   from Eireann, Jan 31, 2005
  • Re: Another cult recruitment film   from naeemah, Apr 24, 2005
  • [no subject]   from , Feb 14, 2005
  • *Create Your Day* CD - inspired by the Movie   from Laurie Kristensen, Mar 8, 2005
  • what the bleep   from peter roloff, Mar 18, 2005
  • The search for spiritual meaning through science   from Sara Houle, Mar 27, 2005
  • keep hope alive   from Bill Widnall, Apr 29, 2005
  • What the Bleep do you know?   from Leah, May 9, 2005
  • The message behind this film for me   from KarlosJ, May 31, 2005
  • taken in...   from kier, Jun 5, 2005
  • Re: taken in...(above post is excellent)   from jay, Jun 13, 2005
  • Critique could have been better.   from Just Another Primate, Jun 5, 2005
  • For What the bleep Fans   from Glenn Parry, Jun 21, 2005
  • what the bleep...   from david, Jul 5, 2005
  • M theory is indeed magical   from dionysus, Aug 19, 2005
  • Super Bleep   from Omar Arana, Aug 20, 2005
  • Re: Super Bleep   from L Brown, Sep 28, 2005
  • They insist of bullshitting on religion & beliefs   from Lucas Santos, Nov 8, 2005
  • Re: They insist of bullshitting on religion & beliefs   from Franz Fortuny L de M, Dec 7, 2005
  • Miceal Ledwith (aka Micheal Ledwith)   from Ann Cox, Dec 17, 2005
  • Re: Miceal Ledwith (aka Micheal Ledwith)   from rik, Mar 28, 2006
  • I can smell your bleep...   from Miggsy, Dec 24, 2005
  • Never send a monkey to do a mans job   from Jack, Dec 24, 2005
  • What the Bleep Do We Know   from steve, Jan 7, 2006
  • Re: What the Bleep Do We Know   from miggsy, Jan 9, 2006
  • Missing the point   from sharpinchicago, Jan 18, 2006
  • What the Bleep Do Any Of You Know??   from JoyousEnergy, Feb 7, 2006
  • Re: What the Bleep Do Any Of You Know??   from Marcy, Apr 18, 2006
  • Using Science For Validity   from Elana, Feb 26, 2006
  • Re: Using Science For Validity   from FromFrance, Mar 5, 2006
  • What the Bleep...   from rik, Mar 28, 2006
  • Re: What the Bleep...   from From France, Apr 3, 2006
  • Really?   from Ted Bonerz, May 16, 2006
  • What the Bleep   from Mary Maurice, May 22, 2006
  • Re: What the Bleep   from Saddened, Aug 25, 2006
  • Judgement   from g, Jun 26, 2006
  • Re: Judgement   from matrix, Jun 28, 2006
  • Re: Judgement   from Nicolas, Oct 11, 2006
  • My Experience   from San Juanita Mejorado, Aug 21, 2006
  • Typical arrogant review   from Ken, Sep 6, 2006
  • Re: Typical arrogant review   from Nicolas, Oct 11, 2006
  • i loved it   from luke, Sep 15, 2006
  • what the fuck do you know   from matthew, Oct 17, 2006
  • what the bleep   from tainoray, Feb 6, 2007
  • Nay sayer!   from Goat, May 24, 2008
  • Hmmmmmm   from aguynamedguyinTX, Sep 10, 2004
  • Re: Hmmmmmm   from naeemah, Apr 24, 2005
  • What an oafish review   from Roberto Mazzarella, Sep 15, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Greg, Sep 30, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from David, Oct 4, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Alex, May 14, 2006
  • Re: What an oafish review   from John Chiara, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Dean, Mar 21, 2005
  • Re: What an oafish review   from John Chiara, Apr 3, 2005
  • Re: What an oafish review   from ling, Jul 10, 2006
  • Re: What an oafish review   from errol Sakia, Apr 24, 2005
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Dulbass, Jan 30, 2006
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Alissa, Oct 17, 2006
  • Re: What an oafish review   from B.Bones, Dec 6, 2006
  • » Undisputed facts «   from diggingdeeper, Oct 6, 2004
  • Re: Undisputed facts   from John Chiara, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Undisputed facts   from Snow Miller, Aug 1, 2005
  • Re: Undisputed facts   from Alex, May 14, 2006
  • Re: What an oafish review   from brad schuster, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from John Chiara, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Brenden, Nov 25, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from John Chiara, Nov 27, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Kappy, Dec 15, 2004
  • Re: What an oafish review   from physics friend, Nov 24, 2004
  • oafish, I think red-neck review is more accurate   from Ricardo Hambina, Apr 24, 2005
  • Re: oafish, I think red-neck review is more accura   from Peace Warrior, Jun 25, 2005
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Helen, Jun 12, 2005
  • Re: What an oafish review   from jafagal, Feb 13, 2006
  • Re: What an oafish review   from james carey, Jul 10, 2006
  • Re: What an oafish review   from Ummm....eh, Dec 21, 2006
  • I can't wait to see it!   from Bill, Sep 23, 2004
  • Best movie ever!!   from Sandi, Sep 24, 2004
  • Re: this movie is pseudoscientfic propaganda piece   from John Chiara, Nov 24, 2004
  • What the Bleep   from sihem, Jun 8, 2006
  • A scientist's review   from LTV, Nov 24, 2004
  • Don't waste your money   from Mike, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Don't waste your money   from John Chiara, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Don't waste your money   from brad schuster, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Don't waste your money   from John Chiara, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Don't waste your money   from steph, Nov 25, 2004
  • Re: Don't waste your money   from , Nov 27, 2004
  • Wake Up!   from Steve, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Wake Up!   from bonnie, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Wake Up!   from Ray Van Gelder, Apr 3, 2005
  • Re: Wake Up!   from John Chiara, Apr 3, 2005
  • What the bleep do we know   from Tommie Sue, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: What the bleep do we know   from Bobcham, Nov 24, 2004
  • it's an artistic interpretaion   from joe, Nov 24, 2004
  • People don't Get It!!!!   from John Chiara, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: People don't Get It!!!!   from Linda Paul, Mar 18, 2005
  • Re: People don't Get It!!!!   from John Chiara, Apr 3, 2005
  • bleep   from Belmo, Nov 29, 2004
  • What the Bleep do we Know   from Jean Mather, Dec 9, 2004
  • What the bleep not a good but dont be hating   from jeffrey, Dec 30, 2004
  • Bring it east! I've heard....   from Barbara Flynn, Jan 7, 2005
  • big mistake...   from Kram, Jan 8, 2005
  • Oh, Joy   from Brent Butt, Jan 30, 2005
  • Another cult recruitment film   from Eireann, Jan 31, 2005
  • Re: Another cult recruitment film   from naeemah, Apr 24, 2005
  • [no subject]   from , Feb 14, 2005
  • *Create Your Day* CD - inspired by the Movie   from Laurie Kristensen, Mar 8, 2005
  • what the bleep   from peter roloff, Mar 18, 2005
  • The search for spiritual meaning through science   from Sara Houle, Mar 27, 2005
  • keep hope alive   from Bill Widnall, Apr 29, 2005
  • What the Bleep do you know?   from Leah, May 9, 2005
  • The message behind this film for me   from KarlosJ, May 31, 2005
  • taken in...   from kier, Jun 5, 2005
  • Re: taken in...(above post is excellent)   from jay, Jun 13, 2005
  • Critique could have been better.   from Just Another Primate, Jun 5, 2005
  • For What the bleep Fans   from Glenn Parry, Jun 21, 2005
  • what the bleep...   from david, Jul 5, 2005
  • M theory is indeed magical   from dionysus, Aug 19, 2005
  • Super Bleep   from Omar Arana, Aug 20, 2005
  • Re: Super Bleep   from L Brown, Sep 28, 2005
  • They insist of bullshitting on religion & beliefs   from Lucas Santos, Nov 8, 2005
  • Re: They insist of bullshitting on religion & beliefs   from Franz Fortuny L de M, Dec 7, 2005
  • Miceal Ledwith (aka Micheal Ledwith)   from Ann Cox, Dec 17, 2005
  • Re: Miceal Ledwith (aka Micheal Ledwith)   from rik, Mar 28, 2006
  • I can smell your bleep...   from Miggsy, Dec 24, 2005
  • Never send a monkey to do a mans job   from Jack, Dec 24, 2005
  • What the Bleep Do We Know   from steve, Jan 7, 2006
  • Re: What the Bleep Do We Know   from miggsy, Jan 9, 2006
  • Missing the point   from sharpinchicago, Jan 18, 2006
  • What the Bleep Do Any Of You Know??   from JoyousEnergy, Feb 7, 2006
  • Re: What the Bleep Do Any Of You Know??   from Marcy, Apr 18, 2006
  • Using Science For Validity   from Elana, Feb 26, 2006
  • Re: Using Science For Validity   from FromFrance, Mar 5, 2006
  • What the Bleep...   from rik, Mar 28, 2006
  • Re: What the Bleep...   from From France, Apr 3, 2006
  • Really?   from Ted Bonerz, May 16, 2006
  • What the Bleep   from Mary Maurice, May 22, 2006
  • Re: What the Bleep   from Saddened, Aug 25, 2006
  • Judgement   from g, Jun 26, 2006
  • Re: Judgement   from matrix, Jun 28, 2006
  • Re: Judgement   from Nicolas, Oct 11, 2006
  • My Experience   from San Juanita Mejorado, Aug 21, 2006
  • Typical arrogant review   from Ken, Sep 6, 2006
  • Re: Typical arrogant review   from Nicolas, Oct 11, 2006
  • i loved it   from luke, Sep 15, 2006
  • what the fuck do you know   from matthew, Oct 17, 2006
  • what the bleep   from tainoray, Feb 6, 2007
  • Nay sayer!   from Goat, May 24, 2008