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    Reader comments on Hero

    Subject: Truth and fiction of Chinese history.
    Date: Sep 8, 2004
    Sender: NonamePrevious | Next

    This movie is a pure fiction. It is rather a metaphoric depiction of Chinese history.

    There was a famous assassination attempt on the First Emperor in 227 BC by Jin Ke, who was from the kingdom of Yan (Its capital is nowadays Beijing.)

    Jin Ke came up with a plan to assassin the King of Qin. He requested the map of Yan and the head of General Fan who was hated by the King Qin after he defected to Yan from Qin. Prince of Yan agreed to offer the map but not general's head. The general, upon learning the plan, volunteered to offered his own head to avenge the slaughter of his entire family by King Qin after his defection.

    In 227 BC, Jin Ke was formally received in a solemn ceremony by King Qin as the representative of Yan court to offered the concession of the Yan kingdom to Qin. Jin Ke's assistant, who was carrying the head and following behind Jin Ke, was so frightened by the imposing atmosphere of Qin palace and the serious guards, trebled severely and could barely walk.

    An officer at King Qin's side shouted: "What is going on with the ambassador?!" The shouts echoed down the grand palace hallway and the assistant was completely paralyzed on the floor. Jin Ke, realizing the dangerous situation, answered: "He is from a small town, has never been to such a magnificent palace, has never met such a majestic grand king. He is naturally very nervous. Please forgive him, your Highness."

    King Qin was alarmed by the situation and ordered the assistant not to come forward. Jin Ke continued walking down the grand hallway toward the King Qin. He kneeled in front of the king and held up the map in his arms. The king took the map and rolled it open slowly. At the last roll over, a knife was revealed. Jin Ke immediately grabbed the knife and grabbed the King's arm to stab him. King Qin jumped up in a hurry and was able to escape when his sleeve broke away.

    No officials standing in the main palace hall was armed except the king himself who was carrying a sword. And no one was able to move without the king's order. The king was running around the palace, hiding from pillar to pillar, with Jin Ke chasing after him with the knife. Only after someone shouted "Your Highness, use your sword!" the king then pulled out the sword and cut off Jin Ke's left leg and three fingers. The palace guards were then able to cut Jin Ke in pieces.

    Immediately the king Qin ordered to takeover Yan. The king of Yan killed the Prince of Yan to appease Qin but to no avail. Yan fell to Qin in 222 BC. In Chinese history, Jin Ke and General Fan were viewed as heroes. The First Emperor Qin was never regarded as a hero but a tyrant. But the Chinese history also recognizes that the prosperity and successful rule of the Han dynasty (206 BC ö AD 220) probably could not exist if it was without the excessive rules of the Qin empire to build the foundation for centralized control.

    Qin was not the first dynasty of China, but the first one whose king called himself the First Emperor. Before Qin, it was Zhou Dynasty (1027 - 221 BC), Shang Dynasty (1700 - 1027 BC) and Xia Dynasty. Qin was among many principalities that were awarded the title and territories by the Zhou rulers and pledged allegiance to the king of Zhou, "The Son of Heaven".

    Zhou's power deteriorated after a detrimental succession fight in 770 BC and moved its capital east, hence the Eastern Zhou (770 - 221 BC). During this period, states fought with each other constantly to "punish" the unruly states, all in the name of unifying for Zhou. By 475 BC only 7 states remained. For 254 years during the Warring States period, 7 states fought with each other mercilessly, until Qin conquered them all.

    Qin was not the only state that had the ambition to conquer all. For hundreds of years and generations after generations, all states tried to unify in the name of "Zhou - the Son of Heaven". Qin was able to succeed, at the end, in 221 BC.

    Qin was not the only dynasty that brought totalitarianism with peace and unity. China's government, after long periods of war and chaos, tends to be brutal. This was the case with Qin Dynasty (221 - 207 BC) after 254 years of Warring States period; Sui Dynasty (AD 581-617) after 60 years of Three Kingdoms and over 200 years of Southern and Northern Dynasties, and you could say, with Mao's China after the civil war. But the totalitarian dynasties were always short-lived.


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  • Talk about over-analyzing!   from Hiro Protagonist, Aug 25, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Skizz, Aug 28, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Pete, Aug 29, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Jimbo, Sep 2, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Paul, Sep 3, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from saichoun, Sep 6, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from George, Sep 7, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Alex, Sep 10, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Charlie, Sep 17, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from mhar, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from NELSON O., Dec 10, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Charlie, Oct 24, 2005
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Senkeh, Feb 5, 2006
  • Why I love this film.   from Frank, Aug 25, 2004
  • Re: Why I love this film.   from Kyle, Aug 30, 2004
  • Re: Why I love this film.   from Stacey Ryley, Oct 9, 2006
  • Re: Why I love this film.   from chris , Dec 14, 2008
  • Re: Why I love this film.   from tanner, Dec 17, 2008
  • Hero   from Emily, Aug 25, 2004
  • Re: Hero   from Jimbo, Sep 2, 2004
  • Re: Hero   from Videobrit, Sep 9, 2004
  • Remember that Mirimax shortened the movie   from James, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: Remember that Mirimax shortened the movie   from No Name really, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: Remember that Mirimax shortened the movie   from jyipdragon, Aug 28, 2004
  • Re: Remember that Mirimax shortened the movie   from jyipdragon, Aug 27, 2004
  • DVD 'Versions' of Hero in Australia.   from Adam, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Remember that Mirimax shortened the movie   from chris , Dec 14, 2008
  • Re: Remember that Mirimax shortened the movie   from chris , Dec 17, 2008
  • I think you got the wrong message   from Jonathan, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: I think you got the wrong message   from Henry, Sep 6, 2004
  • Re: I think you got the wrong message   from mhar, Nov 24, 2004
  • Joshua tried but he still does not get it   from No Name really, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: Joshua tried but he still does not get it   from jyipdragon, Aug 28, 2004
  • Re: Joshua tried but he still does not get it   from okidoki, Aug 31, 2004
  • Re: Joshua tried but he still does not get it   from I ain't Eddy, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Joshua tried but he still does not get it   from Gordon, Feb 11, 2005
  • hero and the USA   from az886592, Aug 26, 2004
  • "The weather is fine!"   from CS, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: [no subject]   from Frank, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: [no subject]   from skwu, Aug 27, 2004
  • Not quite   from Victoria, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: Not quite (actually close)   from bonnie, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: Not quite (actually close)   from matt, Aug 30, 2004
  • Historical????   from jake, Sep 2, 2004
  • Valid critique of politics but...   from indra, Aug 26, 2004
  • Unprofessional   from bobby, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: Unprofessional   from No Name really, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: Unprofessional   from Anon, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: Unprofessional   from hobb, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: Unprofessional   from Cloud, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: Unprofessional   from Sean, Aug 30, 2004
  • truth   from What's American, Sep 7, 2004
  • Re: truth   from another american, Jan 1, 2005
  • Re: truth   from adude, Nov 6, 2005
  • How come everyone else says its good?   from Rob D, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: How come everyone else says its good?   from Terrence, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: How come everyone else says its good?   from Pete, Aug 29, 2004
  • Re: How come everyone else says its good?   from Shawn, Sep 3, 2004
  • Instant loss of argument via Godwins Law   from MortalWombat, Oct 4, 2004
  • Re: "everyone else" does not   from Paul, Aug 31, 2004
  • Re: How come everyone else says its good?   from I ain't Eddy, Nov 24, 2004
  • Pathetic...   from Bite My Ass, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: Pathetic...   from I ain't Eddy, Nov 24, 2004
  • [no subject]   from , Aug 27, 2004
  • What in the world are you talking about??   from Ken Glover, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: What in the world are you talking about??   from jim li, Aug 27, 2004
  • Which is more humorless the movie or the review   from Terrence, Aug 27, 2004
  • Hero   from , Aug 27, 2004
  • From a more literal standpoint   from Moron, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: From a more literal standpoint   from George, Aug 28, 2004
  • Re: From a more literal standpoint   from Alex, Aug 30, 2004
  • Trying to be reasonable   from diagram, Aug 27, 2004
  • [no subject]   from Your Stupid, Aug 28, 2004
  • I agree - this is a nationalist film   from lmw, Aug 28, 2004
  • Re: I agree - this is a nationalist film   from Worgelm, Aug 30, 2004
  • thanks   from barb, Aug 28, 2004
  • U can make up stories but you can't change history   from Clairvoyant Gay, Aug 30, 2004
  • Birth of a Nation   from Songwon, Aug 30, 2004
  • [no subject]   from Jo, Aug 30, 2004
  • Joshua is Absolutely Right   from Byron, Aug 30, 2004
  • Re: Joshua is Absolutely Right   from okidoki, Aug 31, 2004
  • [no subject]   from Passerby, Aug 30, 2004
  • the meaning in my opinion   from someone, Aug 30, 2004
  • I agree with the review   from Sergei, Aug 31, 2004
  • Think about it, Americans !   from Hong Kong Clairvoyant, Aug 31, 2004
  • [no subject]   from matt, Aug 31, 2004
  • Communist Party's views on the Qin Emporer   from katharsis83, Aug 31, 2004
  • I totally agree proto-facist   from jake, Sep 2, 2004
  • Re: I totally agree proto-facist   from Poirrot, Apr 13, 2010
  • Joshua's view is not alone in his insight   from Shawn, Sep 2, 2004
  • United on earth   from Fred, Sep 2, 2004
  • Peace and happiness for who?   from jake, Sep 3, 2004
  • Re: United on earth   from Shawn, Sep 3, 2004
  • I left the theater   from Henry, Sep 6, 2004
  • Re: I left the theater   from John, Sep 9, 2004
  • I just saw the movie   from Edwin, Sep 6, 2004
  • "Independence Day" was more offensive   from Joce, Sep 6, 2004
  • Re: 'Independance Day' was more offensive   from war bastard, Apr 14, 2005
  • Re:review   from JoeSchmo, Sep 7, 2004
  • » Truth and fiction of Chinese history. «   from Noname, Sep 8, 2004
  • Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!   from Alfred, Sep 9, 2004
  • [no subject]   from John Lee, Sep 9, 2004
  • You hit the nail on the head   from lotus, Sep 10, 2004
  • Awesome   from Dan Omlor, Sep 13, 2004
  • Reviewer is right, finally!   from Willy Beamish, Sep 14, 2004
  • Compared to 1984   from None, Sep 15, 2004
  • About Hero....   from Tula, Sep 15, 2004
  • To each his own   from cj, Sep 18, 2004
  • Re: To each his own   from cj, Sep 18, 2004
  • A tragic hero for the common good   from Menard, Sep 21, 2004
  • review = wrong   from jon v, Sep 22, 2004
  • Re: review = wrong   from Mess, Sep 25, 2004
  • One more comment   from Tom, Nov 24, 2004
  • Hero's Historical Footing   from adam, Nov 24, 2004
  • Communist Justification?   from michael, Nov 24, 2004
  • "Hero" is just vile   from Tim Toldrum, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: [no subject]   from Charlie, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: [no subject]   from ET, Dec 10, 2004
  • Re: "Hero" is just vile   from chris , Dec 17, 2008
  • THANK YOU!   from I ain't Eddy, Nov 24, 2004
  • But "Hero" is a CRITICISM of the Chinese gov't!!!   from NamelessObserver, Dec 15, 2004
  • Re: But   from skeptikos, Dec 26, 2004
  • Wrong Analyzation   from Ender, Jan 14, 2005
  • Supposed to be...?   from NineTailedFox, Jan 22, 2005
  • HERO is an elegy, with profound politics   from chinese dissidents, Jan 23, 2005
  • Re: HERO is an elegy, with profound politics   from chinese dissidents, Jan 24, 2005
  • Re: HERO is an elegy, with profound politics   from chinese dissidents, Jan 28, 2005
  • Re: HERO is an elegy, with profound politics   from Jerry Miller, Aug 23, 2010
  • forgot to comment on Joshua's review   from wen, Jan 23, 2005
  • Re: forgot to comment on Joshua's review   from Preb, Jan 24, 2005
  • hero   from tso t'an, Feb 21, 2005
  • Re: hero   from Joe Bleaux, Mar 12, 2005
  • Greek to me   from BrokenWord, Mar 15, 2005
  • A wonderful film - NOT political !   from Robin, Jul 25, 2005
  • Re: A wonderful film - NOT political !   from Wallby, Aug 7, 2005
  • Critics that are lost???   from , Aug 26, 2005
  • Re: Critics that are lost???   from Erin O'Connell, Jan 17, 2006
  • Re: Critics that are lost???   from brian, Dec 22, 2007
  • Re: Critics that are lost???   from Gil Barrett, May 31, 2009
  • propaganda for a new millenium   from sperlicha, Sep 25, 2005
  • PERFECT review   from Tyler, Oct 31, 2005
  • ask   from mujahid, Mar 31, 2006
  • Re: ask   from Bubba Hotep, Apr 11, 2006
  • IRRELEVANT   from Magda Ryley, Oct 9, 2006
  • ???   from Kessel, Nov 4, 2007
  • Die westeners!   from Xiao Chen, Aug 17, 2009
  • Re: Die westeners!   from Poirrot, Apr 13, 2010
  • Bravo   from tsering, May 29, 2010
  • Talk about over-analyzing!   from Hiro Protagonist, Aug 25, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Skizz, Aug 28, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Pete, Aug 29, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Jimbo, Sep 2, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Paul, Sep 3, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from saichoun, Sep 6, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from George, Sep 7, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Alex, Sep 10, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Charlie, Sep 17, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from mhar, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from NELSON O., Dec 10, 2004
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Charlie, Oct 24, 2005
  • Re: Talk about over-analyzing!   from Senkeh, Feb 5, 2006
  • Why I love this film.   from Frank, Aug 25, 2004
  • Re: Why I love this film.   from Kyle, Aug 30, 2004
  • Re: Why I love this film.   from Stacey Ryley, Oct 9, 2006
  • Re: Why I love this film.   from chris , Dec 14, 2008
  • Re: Why I love this film.   from tanner, Dec 17, 2008
  • Hero   from Emily, Aug 25, 2004
  • Re: Hero   from Jimbo, Sep 2, 2004
  • Re: Hero   from Videobrit, Sep 9, 2004
  • Remember that Mirimax shortened the movie   from James, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: Remember that Mirimax shortened the movie   from No Name really, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: Remember that Mirimax shortened the movie   from jyipdragon, Aug 28, 2004
  • Re: Remember that Mirimax shortened the movie   from jyipdragon, Aug 27, 2004
  • DVD 'Versions' of Hero in Australia.   from Adam, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Remember that Mirimax shortened the movie   from chris , Dec 14, 2008
  • Re: Remember that Mirimax shortened the movie   from chris , Dec 17, 2008
  • I think you got the wrong message   from Jonathan, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: I think you got the wrong message   from Henry, Sep 6, 2004
  • Re: I think you got the wrong message   from mhar, Nov 24, 2004
  • Joshua tried but he still does not get it   from No Name really, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: Joshua tried but he still does not get it   from jyipdragon, Aug 28, 2004
  • Re: Joshua tried but he still does not get it   from okidoki, Aug 31, 2004
  • Re: Joshua tried but he still does not get it   from I ain't Eddy, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: Joshua tried but he still does not get it   from Gordon, Feb 11, 2005
  • hero and the USA   from az886592, Aug 26, 2004
  • "The weather is fine!"   from CS, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: [no subject]   from Frank, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: [no subject]   from skwu, Aug 27, 2004
  • Not quite   from Victoria, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: Not quite (actually close)   from bonnie, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: Not quite (actually close)   from matt, Aug 30, 2004
  • Historical????   from jake, Sep 2, 2004
  • Valid critique of politics but...   from indra, Aug 26, 2004
  • Unprofessional   from bobby, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: Unprofessional   from No Name really, Aug 26, 2004
  • Re: Unprofessional   from Anon, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: Unprofessional   from hobb, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: Unprofessional   from Cloud, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: Unprofessional   from Sean, Aug 30, 2004
  • truth   from What's American, Sep 7, 2004
  • Re: truth   from another american, Jan 1, 2005
  • Re: truth   from adude, Nov 6, 2005
  • How come everyone else says its good?   from Rob D, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: How come everyone else says its good?   from Terrence, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: How come everyone else says its good?   from Pete, Aug 29, 2004
  • Re: How come everyone else says its good?   from Shawn, Sep 3, 2004
  • Instant loss of argument via Godwins Law   from MortalWombat, Oct 4, 2004
  • Re: "everyone else" does not   from Paul, Aug 31, 2004
  • Re: How come everyone else says its good?   from I ain't Eddy, Nov 24, 2004
  • Pathetic...   from Bite My Ass, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: Pathetic...   from I ain't Eddy, Nov 24, 2004
  • [no subject]   from , Aug 27, 2004
  • What in the world are you talking about??   from Ken Glover, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: What in the world are you talking about??   from jim li, Aug 27, 2004
  • Which is more humorless the movie or the review   from Terrence, Aug 27, 2004
  • Hero   from , Aug 27, 2004
  • From a more literal standpoint   from Moron, Aug 27, 2004
  • Re: From a more literal standpoint   from George, Aug 28, 2004
  • Re: From a more literal standpoint   from Alex, Aug 30, 2004
  • Trying to be reasonable   from diagram, Aug 27, 2004
  • [no subject]   from Your Stupid, Aug 28, 2004
  • I agree - this is a nationalist film   from lmw, Aug 28, 2004
  • Re: I agree - this is a nationalist film   from Worgelm, Aug 30, 2004
  • thanks   from barb, Aug 28, 2004
  • U can make up stories but you can't change history   from Clairvoyant Gay, Aug 30, 2004
  • Birth of a Nation   from Songwon, Aug 30, 2004
  • [no subject]   from Jo, Aug 30, 2004
  • Joshua is Absolutely Right   from Byron, Aug 30, 2004
  • Re: Joshua is Absolutely Right   from okidoki, Aug 31, 2004
  • [no subject]   from Passerby, Aug 30, 2004
  • the meaning in my opinion   from someone, Aug 30, 2004
  • I agree with the review   from Sergei, Aug 31, 2004
  • Think about it, Americans !   from Hong Kong Clairvoyant, Aug 31, 2004
  • [no subject]   from matt, Aug 31, 2004
  • Communist Party's views on the Qin Emporer   from katharsis83, Aug 31, 2004
  • I totally agree proto-facist   from jake, Sep 2, 2004
  • Re: I totally agree proto-facist   from Poirrot, Apr 13, 2010
  • Joshua's view is not alone in his insight   from Shawn, Sep 2, 2004
  • United on earth   from Fred, Sep 2, 2004
  • Peace and happiness for who?   from jake, Sep 3, 2004
  • Re: United on earth   from Shawn, Sep 3, 2004
  • I left the theater   from Henry, Sep 6, 2004
  • Re: I left the theater   from John, Sep 9, 2004
  • I just saw the movie   from Edwin, Sep 6, 2004
  • "Independence Day" was more offensive   from Joce, Sep 6, 2004
  • Re: 'Independance Day' was more offensive   from war bastard, Apr 14, 2005
  • Re:review   from JoeSchmo, Sep 7, 2004
  • » Truth and fiction of Chinese history. «   from Noname, Sep 8, 2004
  • Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!   from Alfred, Sep 9, 2004
  • [no subject]   from John Lee, Sep 9, 2004
  • You hit the nail on the head   from lotus, Sep 10, 2004
  • Awesome   from Dan Omlor, Sep 13, 2004
  • Reviewer is right, finally!   from Willy Beamish, Sep 14, 2004
  • Compared to 1984   from None, Sep 15, 2004
  • About Hero....   from Tula, Sep 15, 2004
  • To each his own   from cj, Sep 18, 2004
  • Re: To each his own   from cj, Sep 18, 2004
  • A tragic hero for the common good   from Menard, Sep 21, 2004
  • review = wrong   from jon v, Sep 22, 2004
  • Re: review = wrong   from Mess, Sep 25, 2004
  • One more comment   from Tom, Nov 24, 2004
  • Hero's Historical Footing   from adam, Nov 24, 2004
  • Communist Justification?   from michael, Nov 24, 2004
  • "Hero" is just vile   from Tim Toldrum, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: [no subject]   from Charlie, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: [no subject]   from ET, Dec 10, 2004
  • Re: "Hero" is just vile   from chris , Dec 17, 2008
  • THANK YOU!   from I ain't Eddy, Nov 24, 2004
  • But "Hero" is a CRITICISM of the Chinese gov't!!!   from NamelessObserver, Dec 15, 2004
  • Re: But   from skeptikos, Dec 26, 2004
  • Wrong Analyzation   from Ender, Jan 14, 2005
  • Supposed to be...?   from NineTailedFox, Jan 22, 2005
  • HERO is an elegy, with profound politics   from chinese dissidents, Jan 23, 2005
  • Re: HERO is an elegy, with profound politics   from chinese dissidents, Jan 24, 2005
  • Re: HERO is an elegy, with profound politics   from chinese dissidents, Jan 28, 2005
  • Re: HERO is an elegy, with profound politics   from Jerry Miller, Aug 23, 2010
  • forgot to comment on Joshua's review   from wen, Jan 23, 2005
  • Re: forgot to comment on Joshua's review   from Preb, Jan 24, 2005
  • hero   from tso t'an, Feb 21, 2005
  • Re: hero   from Joe Bleaux, Mar 12, 2005
  • Greek to me   from BrokenWord, Mar 15, 2005
  • A wonderful film - NOT political !   from Robin, Jul 25, 2005
  • Re: A wonderful film - NOT political !   from Wallby, Aug 7, 2005
  • Critics that are lost???   from , Aug 26, 2005
  • Re: Critics that are lost???   from Erin O'Connell, Jan 17, 2006
  • Re: Critics that are lost???   from brian, Dec 22, 2007
  • Re: Critics that are lost???   from Gil Barrett, May 31, 2009
  • propaganda for a new millenium   from sperlicha, Sep 25, 2005
  • PERFECT review   from Tyler, Oct 31, 2005
  • ask   from mujahid, Mar 31, 2006
  • Re: ask   from Bubba Hotep, Apr 11, 2006
  • IRRELEVANT   from Magda Ryley, Oct 9, 2006
  • ???   from Kessel, Nov 4, 2007
  • Die westeners!   from Xiao Chen, Aug 17, 2009
  • Re: Die westeners!   from Poirrot, Apr 13, 2010
  • Bravo   from tsering, May 29, 2010