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  •  READER COMMENTS

    Reader comments on Irreversible

    Subject: Is this a review??
    Date: Dec 5, 2003
    Sender: MauroPrevious | Next

    I've perused the 'review' with great interest, and my conviction that the movie 'Irreversible' is indeed a great one has emerged unscathed, nay, stronger than ever. This wannabe connossieurs have inadvertently described all that is wrong with the average moviegoers mentality - he cannot cope with originality. Granted, sometimes originality can be taken to extreme ends and rendered absurd, much like some overzealous French director. Reviewer Joshua Tanzer's lament is common to many who have watched this movie and asked 'But what's the point?' What is the point of any movie, I ask. What is the point of Terminator 3, where an unconvincing cyborg kills off bad guys?

    'Irreversible' is hard to stomach because of its violence and structure. It is a very confusing film, and for the unprepared, utterly distressing (particularly the rape scene). Tanzer labels Gaspar Noe's roving camera technique like so:

    "And finally there's cinematic pretension ¸ much of the movie is shot using what can only be described as the drunken monkey technique."

    Cinematic pretension? Well excuse the director for trying something new! Actually this technique is quite effective in transmitting a sense of disorientation and general unease, which fits in beatifully with the desparate acts of violence we witness during the course of the movie.

    The film deals with a topic which other directors wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole - the trauma of rape. Reviewers of the movie were originally very cruel to Noe, and the harsh words uttered in the press allegedly caused him to consider suicide. Tanzer isn't reviewing the movie in an impartial, professional way. He positively HATES it. He hates it because he doesn't understand it, because he is shocked by it and because it violates his pre-conceived notions of how a movie should run. He asks, and note his need for suspense (what did he think he was watching here, some Hollywood horror schlock?):

    "Once you know the cause of the jarring scene at the end, the suspense is over. The whole movie is over. What else are you going to show on your backwards journey ¸ how happy-happy-happy these characters were before the randomly occurring rape? Well, yes, that's what we see for the rest of the film."

    Indeed, that is the effect desired by the director. After the utter depravity and violence we get to see the calm BEFORE the storm, and the sadness and irony of it all is deafening. How often have we looked on death and sickness and wished things were as before, in the certain, comforting past? Tanzer sees this beautiful technique as " artistically pretentious stupidity," and that there was NO NEED to show it backwards. Perhaps Tanzer would also like to ask Martin Scorsese why he shot 'Raging Bull' in black & white or why Sergio Leone chose one soundtrack over another in 'Once Upon a time in the West'...
    Cheers
    Mauro Cordina


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  • Sorry for you   from Mademoiselle, Mar 12, 2003
  • Re: Sorry for you   from GD Williamson, Mar 18, 2003
  • Re: Sorry for you   from Bryan, Sep 29, 2003
  • Re: Sorry for you   from Tashtigo707, Apr 14, 2003
  • Re: Sorry for you   from Perfume V, Jun 13, 2003
  • Re: Sorry for you   from Seb, Oct 6, 2003
  • Re: Sorry for you   from earlgrey, Oct 12, 2003
  • Re: Sorry for you   from Sam, Nov 5, 2003
  • fascinating   from irrelevant, Jan 10, 2004
  • Re: Sorry for you   from FreeYOW, Jan 22, 2006
  • Re: Sorry for you   from Rose, Sep 2, 2007
  • Don't listen to Joshy   from Cory, Mar 13, 2003
  • worst... film... ever!   from lunarfist, Mar 14, 2003
  • Irreversible did it's job   from WebsCo, Aug 7, 2003
  • Re: worst... film... ever!   from EJ, Aug 9, 2003
  • Re: worst... film... ever!   from Matchfit, Sep 1, 2003
  • Re: worst... film... ever!   from dcc, Aug 16, 2007
  • Death Wish   from Geezer, Feb 14, 2004
  • Re: worst... film... ever!   from Jo, Feb 15, 2004
  • Re: worst... film... ever!   from DC, Aug 16, 2007
  • Re: worst... film... ever!   from mastroiani, Jun 30, 2009
  • [no subject]   from MJ, Mar 30, 2003
  • are you kidding?   from tb7, Apr 1, 2003
  • Repulsive without merit   from t c, Apr 16, 2003
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  • Re: Repulsive without merit   from che, Apr 20, 2007
  • this says it best   from MB, Apr 18, 2003
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  • Re: homophobia?   from Allan, Sep 13, 2008
  • Re: this says it best   from Tony Host, Jan 18, 2007
  • Doing what it is suppose to!   from Bruce, May 9, 2003
  • versirreblei   from mark brant, May 14, 2003
  • Joshy...   from monica belluci, May 24, 2003
  • late at night   from Clara, May 31, 2003
  • Movie end   from David, Aug 24, 2003
  • Joshy's point   from tommy, Jun 1, 2003
  • [no subject]   from , Sep 25, 2003
  • ART   from L, Oct 6, 2003
  • Re: ART   from Derek, Dec 6, 2006
  • I liked it... then hated it.   from Bryan, Sep 29, 2003
  • Re: I liked it... then hated it.   from Bjoern H, Dec 7, 2003
  • JOSHUA TANZER, You are a jackass!   from sudamericanrocker, Oct 12, 2003
  • Re: JOSHUA TANZER, You are a jackass!   from Tostitos, Oct 18, 2003
  • Fucking americans!   from Mr. Europa, Nov 12, 2003
  • Re: Fucking americans!   from karen, Dec 22, 2004
  • Re: Fucking americans!   from ying, May 15, 2005
  • » Is this a review?? «   from Mauro, Dec 5, 2003
  • the movie was a complete success.   from Nadira Ilana, Jan 2, 2004
  • Re: Is this a review??   from Hathor, Feb 6, 2004
  • YOU UNEDUCATED, IGNORANT, NARROW-MINDED MORON   from JamesEarlCash, Dec 8, 2003
  • got a little carried away   from JamesEarlCash, Dec 8, 2003
  • Post Scriptum   from JamesEarlCash, Dec 8, 2003
  • saw last night - amazing viceral   from michael, Jan 6, 2004
  • Re: saw last night - amazing viceral   from Drew, Jan 25, 2005
  • if you know films, this for BEST PICTURE   from dobermann, Jan 13, 2004
  • Irreversible   from Tyler Durden, Feb 18, 2004
  • Asking for a song   from Pedro Trevino, Apr 5, 2004
  • Criminal charges   from A.J.A., Apr 25, 2004
  • Editing   from Me, Aug 1, 2004
  • irreversible...   from Jeff, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: irreversible...   from Onetime, Dec 16, 2004
  • my sentiments exactly   from RG, Jun 10, 2005
  • Good review   from Lampen, Jun 27, 2005
  • Gasper Noe ROCKS   from Discoelmer, Jul 5, 2005
  • Is this guy a qualified critic?   from theevildead23, Sep 3, 2005
  • "Irreversible" review   from Steven J Athanas, Oct 30, 2005
  • Eyes open   from che, Nov 13, 2005
  • Re: Eyes open   from ski, Nov 25, 2005
  • feedbeack   from Per, Jan 10, 2006
  • Relax gentlemen...   from JT Mengel, Jun 26, 2006
  • Joshua Tanzer is a stupid cunt   from DNK, Jul 4, 2006
  • Re: Joshua Tanzer is a stupid cunt   from Che, Apr 20, 2007
  • lol, go and watch clockwork orange   from nameless, Oct 1, 2006
  • Memento?!?!?   from Pokey, Oct 30, 2006
  • [no subject]   from SteamMachine, Nov 16, 2006
  • Tanzer Sucks   from Ricardo Moscoso, May 25, 2007
  • Hypocrite!!   from Dee, Jun 19, 2007
  • Not at all a pointless movie   from kada, Jul 12, 2007
  • Joshua hit the nail on the head   from Mike Lep, Aug 7, 2007
  • Re: Joshua hit the nail on the head   from Novi Filipovich, Jul 5, 2014
  • Movie is good and reviewer is bad...   from Cheery, Sep 16, 2007
  • Disgusted   from Sick, Jan 30, 2009
  • You're an idiot   from Robert, May 6, 2009
  • inexcusable   from Fin Macdonald, Oct 16, 2013
  • Amazing movie, Top notch   from Novi Filipovich, Jul 5, 2014
  • Sorry for you   from Mademoiselle, Mar 12, 2003
  • Re: Sorry for you   from GD Williamson, Mar 18, 2003
  • Re: Sorry for you   from Bryan, Sep 29, 2003
  • Re: Sorry for you   from Tashtigo707, Apr 14, 2003
  • Re: Sorry for you   from Perfume V, Jun 13, 2003
  • Re: Sorry for you   from Seb, Oct 6, 2003
  • Re: Sorry for you   from earlgrey, Oct 12, 2003
  • Re: Sorry for you   from Sam, Nov 5, 2003
  • fascinating   from irrelevant, Jan 10, 2004
  • Re: Sorry for you   from FreeYOW, Jan 22, 2006
  • Re: Sorry for you   from Rose, Sep 2, 2007
  • Don't listen to Joshy   from Cory, Mar 13, 2003
  • worst... film... ever!   from lunarfist, Mar 14, 2003
  • Irreversible did it's job   from WebsCo, Aug 7, 2003
  • Re: worst... film... ever!   from EJ, Aug 9, 2003
  • Re: worst... film... ever!   from Matchfit, Sep 1, 2003
  • Re: worst... film... ever!   from dcc, Aug 16, 2007
  • Death Wish   from Geezer, Feb 14, 2004
  • Re: worst... film... ever!   from Jo, Feb 15, 2004
  • Re: worst... film... ever!   from DC, Aug 16, 2007
  • Re: worst... film... ever!   from mastroiani, Jun 30, 2009
  • [no subject]   from MJ, Mar 30, 2003
  • are you kidding?   from tb7, Apr 1, 2003
  • Repulsive without merit   from t c, Apr 16, 2003
  • Re: Repulsive without merit   from CB, May 2, 2003
  • Re: Repulsive without merit   from tie, Mar 15, 2004
  • Re: Repulsive without merit   from Mimo Zus, Aug 17, 2004
  • Re: Repulsive without merit   from che, Apr 20, 2007
  • this says it best   from MB, Apr 18, 2003
  • Re: this says it best   from Tashtigo707, Apr 22, 2003
  • homophobia?   from fireal, Apr 23, 2003
  • Re: homophobia?   from Perfume V, May 1, 2003
  • Re: homophobia?   from fireal, May 11, 2003
  • Re: homophobia?   from Perfume V, Jun 13, 2003
  • Re: homophobia?   from movie viewer, Dec 3, 2003
  • Re: homophobia?   from Joshua, Dec 3, 2003
  • Re: homophobia?   from Bjoern H, Dec 7, 2003
  • Re: homophobia?   from Ronin, Jan 2, 2004
  • Re: homophobia?   from Jaime, May 7, 2007
  • Re: homophobia?   from Rose, Sep 2, 2007
  • Re: homophobia?   from Allan, Sep 13, 2008
  • Re: this says it best   from Tony Host, Jan 18, 2007
  • Doing what it is suppose to!   from Bruce, May 9, 2003
  • versirreblei   from mark brant, May 14, 2003
  • Joshy...   from monica belluci, May 24, 2003
  • late at night   from Clara, May 31, 2003
  • Movie end   from David, Aug 24, 2003
  • Joshy's point   from tommy, Jun 1, 2003
  • [no subject]   from , Sep 25, 2003
  • ART   from L, Oct 6, 2003
  • Re: ART   from Derek, Dec 6, 2006
  • I liked it... then hated it.   from Bryan, Sep 29, 2003
  • Re: I liked it... then hated it.   from Bjoern H, Dec 7, 2003
  • JOSHUA TANZER, You are a jackass!   from sudamericanrocker, Oct 12, 2003
  • Re: JOSHUA TANZER, You are a jackass!   from Tostitos, Oct 18, 2003
  • Fucking americans!   from Mr. Europa, Nov 12, 2003
  • Re: Fucking americans!   from karen, Dec 22, 2004
  • Re: Fucking americans!   from ying, May 15, 2005
  • » Is this a review?? «   from Mauro, Dec 5, 2003
  • the movie was a complete success.   from Nadira Ilana, Jan 2, 2004
  • Re: Is this a review??   from Hathor, Feb 6, 2004
  • YOU UNEDUCATED, IGNORANT, NARROW-MINDED MORON   from JamesEarlCash, Dec 8, 2003
  • got a little carried away   from JamesEarlCash, Dec 8, 2003
  • Post Scriptum   from JamesEarlCash, Dec 8, 2003
  • saw last night - amazing viceral   from michael, Jan 6, 2004
  • Re: saw last night - amazing viceral   from Drew, Jan 25, 2005
  • if you know films, this for BEST PICTURE   from dobermann, Jan 13, 2004
  • Irreversible   from Tyler Durden, Feb 18, 2004
  • Asking for a song   from Pedro Trevino, Apr 5, 2004
  • Criminal charges   from A.J.A., Apr 25, 2004
  • Editing   from Me, Aug 1, 2004
  • irreversible...   from Jeff, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: irreversible...   from Onetime, Dec 16, 2004
  • my sentiments exactly   from RG, Jun 10, 2005
  • Good review   from Lampen, Jun 27, 2005
  • Gasper Noe ROCKS   from Discoelmer, Jul 5, 2005
  • Is this guy a qualified critic?   from theevildead23, Sep 3, 2005
  • "Irreversible" review   from Steven J Athanas, Oct 30, 2005
  • Eyes open   from che, Nov 13, 2005
  • Re: Eyes open   from ski, Nov 25, 2005
  • feedbeack   from Per, Jan 10, 2006
  • Relax gentlemen...   from JT Mengel, Jun 26, 2006
  • Joshua Tanzer is a stupid cunt   from DNK, Jul 4, 2006
  • Re: Joshua Tanzer is a stupid cunt   from Che, Apr 20, 2007
  • lol, go and watch clockwork orange   from nameless, Oct 1, 2006
  • Memento?!?!?   from Pokey, Oct 30, 2006
  • [no subject]   from SteamMachine, Nov 16, 2006
  • Tanzer Sucks   from Ricardo Moscoso, May 25, 2007
  • Hypocrite!!   from Dee, Jun 19, 2007
  • Not at all a pointless movie   from kada, Jul 12, 2007
  • Joshua hit the nail on the head   from Mike Lep, Aug 7, 2007
  • Re: Joshua hit the nail on the head   from Novi Filipovich, Jul 5, 2014
  • Movie is good and reviewer is bad...   from Cheery, Sep 16, 2007
  • Disgusted   from Sick, Jan 30, 2009
  • You're an idiot   from Robert, May 6, 2009
  • inexcusable   from Fin Macdonald, Oct 16, 2013
  • Amazing movie, Top notch   from Novi Filipovich, Jul 5, 2014