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    Reader comments on The Holy Land

    Subject: Re: Dangerous Propaganda
    Date: Oct 11, 2003
    Sender: I LOVED THIS MOVIEPrevious | Next

    Dangerous:
    You misunderstood the movie. The "settler" you say bombed the bus at the end was not a settler but an Arab. You didn't follow the story and dialog. What is more, the director and actors in this film were magnificent. One of the issues in
    Israeli society is that when you live there you cannot tell who is an Arab or a Jew (as happened in your case) yet the Arabs do what happened at the end of the picture. That is, the Arab character runs with Mendy and Mike, tells Mike he is like a brother, even provides Mike with hash,
    runs with Mendy like a friend, then blows him up
    (although the Arab character probably didn;t know Mendy would be on that bus). I've read critical reviews panning this film by critics who are way off the mark. They claim the dialog and plot are too thin. The problem is the critics know nothing of the pressures in Israeli society today. The director of course took some license. Not all settlers are whackos like the character in the film, but some are. The Israeli actress who played the prostitute was AMAZING. IN fact, the cast was fantatic. For newcomers, these actors were so believeable and brought the directors characters to life. I felt like I was in Israel, although in an underworld part of it.

    The film is underrated. I am an Israel activist and do not like films that would seem to trash Israel. THis film didnlt bother me at all. It showed a subculture we all have and as for critics complaining Mendy had no spiritual crisis,
    this filmwas not about Judaism, or even Israel. It was about PEOPLE in Israel. And Israel as the refuge of Jews, even the poorest like the prostitute and Mike end up there. She goes to a church; ostensibly she is not a Jew but had to qualify as one to be in Israel. Mendy is clearly bored with his Ortodox lifestyle, Mike is happy go lucky, avoiding tax problems in the US. The settler is a fanatic, the Arab is a nice guy, but sometimes...

    Too bad this movie is misunderstood. I haven't seen such amazing actors in such a low budget film in years and I'd love to know how funding was raised to produce this, the casting, etc.
    Reviews have been unfair by people who are artsy fartsy rather than understanding of Israeli society, albeit its underworld. I'd lvoe to know hwo this was cast and the backfground of the actors. I never once felt I was awatching a movie, but somehow watching real people. And finally, Israel, her good and bad is all about that: her people, Jews. Arabs, Russians, Americans etc. and life is just a day at a time,
    no need for great introspection: these people jsut want to live. Holy Land peeps, if yous ee my comments, please contact me. I want to help you rpomote this terrific film.



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    Response to this comment:
    Dangerous Propaganda

    Not only is this movie a bad love story, it sends a very dangerous and irresponsible political message about Jewish settlers in the West Bank. The idea of a settler so determined to sabotage the peace process that he would blow up a bus that could potentially be carrying a relative or friend is not grounded in reality. Why would a settler need to arrange for a bomb to blow up to sabotage the peace process when there are organizations like Hamas and Fatah doing it every 5 days?? The movie is not gounded in contemporary political reality and it should be taken with a few hundred grains of salt.

    For a Jewish settler to blow up a bus he may be killing people with whom he shares ideologies or even a last name. It is counterintuitive and irrational to blow up people who might potentially be on your side. An act of terrorism against civilians indicates a blatant disregard for the lives of the people who could potentially be affected. Thats why I could believe the story had the bomber selected Mikes Place on a friday night because anyone who is there would be breaking shabbat and therefore dialectically opposed to a religious right winger. But what the filmmaker is proposing is some kind of INTENTIONAL friendly fire which can only make sense if you liken the religious right wing to someone or someTHING so maniacal and reckless that they would potentially kill their own brother just to obstruct a political agenda they disagree with. This is the dangerous message the film is giving.

    I dont mind films that bend reality but If they are trying to make a political statement, which this film obviously is, then that statement should be grounded by reality. The fact that Eitan decided to stretch the limits of reasonable thinking to make a political statement is an act of zealotry not so different from the zealots he is misrepresenting. Movies shape peoples minds and therefore should not make a group of human beings look like animals when they are not. This reminds me of the movies Hitler's propagandists made that compared Jews to rats. The Shoah was only made possible with these such films. And I am afraid of how many impressionable minds Holy (Bologna) Land has already affected.






    Comment index:

  • The Holy Land   from Jon Johnson, Sep 5, 2003
  • Re: The Holy Land   from Boris Krayzman, Sep 6, 2003
  • Dangerous Propaganda   from jaron, Sep 9, 2003
  • » Re: Dangerous Propaganda «   from I LOVED THIS MOVIE, Oct 11, 2003
  • Re: Dangerous Propaganda excellent film   from Anna, Oct 21, 2003
  • A very good movie   from Susan, Oct 23, 2003
  • Re: A very good movie   from Steven, Oct 27, 2003
  • It's an OK movie   from shlomo, Nov 24, 2003
  • ha ha ha! what a comedy!   from Rosie D-Kirby NYC, Jan 1, 2004
  • Re: ha ha ha! what a comedy!   from Pual Freedman, May 28, 2005
  • The Holy Land   from Rick Olson, Aug 23, 2005
  • awful movie   from Lee, Sep 6, 2006
  • [no subject]   from , Apr 27, 2007
  • The Holy Land   from Jon Johnson, Sep 5, 2003
  • Re: The Holy Land   from Boris Krayzman, Sep 6, 2003
  • Dangerous Propaganda   from jaron, Sep 9, 2003
  • » Re: Dangerous Propaganda «   from I LOVED THIS MOVIE, Oct 11, 2003
  • Re: Dangerous Propaganda excellent film   from Anna, Oct 21, 2003
  • A very good movie   from Susan, Oct 23, 2003
  • Re: A very good movie   from Steven, Oct 27, 2003
  • It's an OK movie   from shlomo, Nov 24, 2003
  • ha ha ha! what a comedy!   from Rosie D-Kirby NYC, Jan 1, 2004
  • Re: ha ha ha! what a comedy!   from Pual Freedman, May 28, 2005
  • The Holy Land   from Rick Olson, Aug 23, 2005
  • awful movie   from Lee, Sep 6, 2006
  • [no subject]   from , Apr 27, 2007