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  •  READER COMMENTS

    Reader comments on September Tapes

    Subject: Re: Tragic failure
    Date: Oct 30, 2006
    Sender: Nancy MichaelPrevious | Next

    I find the wide range of viewpoints about 'September Tapes' interesting. Analysis and divergent viewpoints are healthy, however, I applaud both the effort and the execution of this daring film. It was well enough thought of to premiere at the Sundance Film Festival, go to Cannes and festivals around the world. The New York Times gave it a Critic's Pick and the History Club chose it as one of their selections.

    I still ponder what in the world would inspire a group of young, recent cinema school graduates to sneak into Post 9/11 Afghanistan to make a movie.
    I admire their vision, their courage and their chutzpah. It certainly should stir conversation and some thoughtful questions as we watch their adventure from the safety of the U.S. Hurrah for them to push the boundaries of our comfort zones.

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    Response to this comment:
    Tragic failure

    First and foremost, I have to give a huge amount of respect to the filmmakers themselves for attempting such a thing. We should all be so ambitious and daring. I can't convey how impressed I am by these people and what they attempted. I am a bit in awe of it.

    The battle scenes are at times harrowing and other times ludicrous. If I had any doubt this film was a mockmentary, it was completly removed when Wali survives multiple rocket nearbye rocket strikes. Other times I marvelled at the shootouts. Perhaps they used live ammo, it seemed so real at times. (Of course the final first-person-shooter sequence was ridiculous and had me laughing out loud. Well, snickering derisively anyway).

    Unfortunately the overall end product is so inferior. While due to the circumstances, simplified performances can be understood, the film is absolutly destroyed by the hackneyed writing.

    Terrible dialogue. Flat and unimaginative characters. Paint by numbers plot points and motivations. Almost no actual character arc demonstrated. Wali's scene when he discovers Lars' reason for coming to Afghanistan is as predictable as it could get. And the way it was finally revealed (though long suspected by this viewer) was unfortunately laughable. The whole thing rings absolutly hollow.

    It's almost tragic in a way. I was more interested in the behind-the-scenes actual making-of documentary than the film itself. The story of their very real and daring adventure, as well as the story of all the Afghanis they meet is lost underneath this tired and pointless fictional film.

    When someone describes all the interviews and stories they receieved while waiting to shoot scenes, I almost shouted in frustration. LET'S HEAR THOSE STORIES! Not this crap about obssessed Lars and scarecrow Wali and the suspiciously silent cameraman. Those Afhani stories are the real stories that these fake characters supposedly came to hear

    Through their own ambition and daring, the filmmakers stumbled on a real and potentially brilliant actual documentary at a pivotal and intense time in the history for our two nations and peoples, but unfortunately didn't or couldn't see it through the fog of their fake and empty fiction movie.

    Tragic, in a way, this missed opportunity. Brilliantly courageous and ambitious. Tragically self-involved and terribly executed.






    Comment index:

  • September tapes   from Emu, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: September tapes   from ruddiger, Sep 6, 2005
  • Re: September tapes   from chan Jay, Nov 2, 2006
  • september tapes - christian van gregg   from g.peploe, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from n. lee, Feb 22, 2005
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from Michael George, Jun 2, 2005
  • DOD declares movie is real   from DODRep, Apr 24, 2005
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from chet, Aug 27, 2005
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from randyn calvin, Oct 12, 2005
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from Chan Jay, Oct 30, 2006
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from espionage, Mar 27, 2008
  • The real hunt   from Conrad, Dec 12, 2010
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from Espionage, Mar 27, 2008
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from David, Sep 29, 2005
  • september tapes   from Sue Van Sant, Jan 6, 2005
  • Re: september tapes   from roger courtney, Jan 12, 2005
  • sept tapes   from bile, Jan 8, 2005
  • Re: sept tapes   from Sylvia, Feb 5, 2005
  • September Tapes   from Sylvia, Feb 5, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from susan gillig, Feb 7, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from ilija, Apr 9, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from Chan Jay, Nov 2, 2006
  • Re: September Tapes   from Nancy Lee, Feb 7, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from Nella Mellott, Feb 11, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from Richard, Feb 9, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from ragsdrichest, Feb 26, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from lisa, Mar 4, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from Just Love It, Mar 5, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from Nella Mellott, Mar 1, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from Robert, Mar 9, 2005
  • Sept 8 tapes   from niteranger, Feb 11, 2005
  • september tapes - blur people   from nadmin, Feb 16, 2005
  • Re: september tapes - blur people   from Bro. Pain, Oct 10, 2010
  • [no subject]   from myce, Feb 28, 2005
  • damn stupid movie   from ralph, Mar 15, 2005
  • Re: damn stupid movie   from Vic Ram, Mar 19, 2005
  • Re: damn stupid movie   from Lester Van, Mar 29, 2005
  • september tapes   from chris, Mar 21, 2005
  • Re: september tapes   from Hector R, Mar 29, 2005
  • Re: september tapes   from pogpog, May 27, 2005
  • Best Review Yet   from Skjellifetti, Dec 30, 2005
  • Re: september tapes   from Lee Van, Mar 29, 2005
  • Re: september tapes   from EDWARD NOVA, Apr 3, 2005
  • blind hero   from Dominik, Apr 3, 2005
  • What message?   from Jills, Apr 8, 2005
  • [no subject]   from ilija, Apr 9, 2005
  • Blair Witch redux   from Vincent, Apr 24, 2005
  • Don't hate   from scocar, Apr 24, 2005
  • Juvenile   from M_Vee, Apr 26, 2005
  • Re: Juvenile   from lee sant, Apr 27, 2005
  • Re: Juvenile   from n/a, May 22, 2005
  • Re: Juvenile   from alex, Jul 10, 2005
  • Are You Kidding?   from Sommer, May 28, 2005
  • Re: Are You Kidding?   from anogi, May 30, 2005
  • Stupid   from whatever, Aug 15, 2005
  • Re: Are You Kidding?   from michael, Oct 20, 2005
  • Re: Are You Kidding?   from Anonymous, Jun 10, 2005
  • Music....   from Gunnard Doboze, Jun 17, 2005
  • September Tapes   from Bill, Jul 25, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from Northern neighbor, Aug 25, 2005
  • MAKES ME SICK   from , Sep 17, 2005
  • Re: MAKES ME SICK   from George Michael, Oct 12, 2005
  • Re: MAKES ME SICK   from Jime, Dec 14, 2008
  • SEPTEMBER TAPES   from Scott, Nov 7, 2005
  • [no subject]   from Bubak, Nov 7, 2005
  • Spetember Tapes   from Benji, Jan 31, 2006
  • September Tapes   from , Feb 1, 2006
  • This movie kick ass   from Damian Rivas Valdez, Feb 22, 2006
  • Re: This movie kick ass   from travis tracy, Mar 15, 2006
  • Re: This movie kick ass   from WESTON, Mar 22, 2006
  • Re: This movie kick ass   from McKenna Mae Lee, May 9, 2006
  • Re: This movie kick ass   from Steve Van, May 28, 2006
  • Re: This movie kick ass   from Jim Sant, Jun 20, 2006
  • Re: This movie kick ass   from mary margaret Pete, Jul 4, 2006
  • REALISE THE REALITY   from b22uk, Feb 1, 2006
  • positive impressions for strong subject matter   from Kasen Courtney, Jul 20, 2006
  • Courage and filmmaking   from Broady Bennett, Jul 20, 2006
  • September Tapes   from Jami, Jul 27, 2006
  • Re: September Tapes   from may george, Aug 2, 2006
  • Re: September Tapes   from kg, Aug 24, 2006
  • Re: September Tapes   from Ray Lee, Aug 31, 2006
  • Funding ??   from marco, Sep 11, 2006
  • Re: Funding ??   from gregg lee, Sep 19, 2006
  • Tragic failure   from Jumpy, Sep 27, 2006
  • » Re: Tragic failure «   from Nancy Michael, Oct 30, 2006
  • positive impressions for strong subject matter   from Lee Babcock, Nov 4, 2006
  • Re: positive impressions for strong subject matter   from Claire Van, Jan 14, 2007
  • finally an other view   from yojimbo, Dec 3, 2006
  • Amazing film   from jon, Jan 14, 2007
  • September Tapes question? Ask me, I made it.   from christian Johnston, Feb 8, 2007
  • Re: September Tapes question? Ask me, I made it.   from Nancy Gregg, Feb 9, 2007
  • Great Find!   from Nathan Courtney, Mar 21, 2007
  • sept movie   from John & Lorri, Apr 15, 2007
  • SEPT 8 TAPES   from MARK CARROLL, Apr 19, 2007
  • September Tapes Great Find!   from Mary Loring, Apr 27, 2007
  • Hurrah!   from summer jones, May 30, 2007
  • Interesting production   from Jim Courtney, Jun 28, 2007
  • Old-Timer likes 'September Tapes'   from August Johnson, Jul 28, 2007
  • Great Find! I bought it!   from Hep Nelson, Aug 21, 2007
  • Scumbags!   from Andres Duran, Aug 21, 2007
  • Re: Reply   from James Everly, Aug 28, 2007
  • Great Find!   from Leisel Leonard, Sep 27, 2007
  • Wow! Why didn't we find this in the theatre?   from May Holmes, Nov 14, 2007
  • Re: Wow! Why didn't we find this in the theatre?   from Foreigner, Jan 11, 2008
  • Re: Wow! Why didn't we find this in the theatre?   from George Gabriel, Mar 27, 2008
  • Was the Wife on the Plane Real?   from Septem8er Tapes, Apr 24, 2008
  • Re: Was the Wife on the Plane Real?   from David, Dec 14, 2008
  • Why isn't this movie in the theatres?   from summer simpkins, Aug 1, 2008
  • Why isn't this movie in the theatres?   from dorie ;lowe, Aug 20, 2008
  • great movie.   from ma2k, Dec 14, 2008
  • WOW! I just saw this amazing film on tv.   from Mandy Jones, Dec 15, 2009
  • Re: WOW! I just saw this amazing film on tv.   from Allie Minton, Aug 1, 2010
  • loved ever minute   from kandie, Dec 31, 2009
  • Powerful movie and message   from jane clark, Sep 11, 2010
  • September tapes   from Emu, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: September tapes   from ruddiger, Sep 6, 2005
  • Re: September tapes   from chan Jay, Nov 2, 2006
  • september tapes - christian van gregg   from g.peploe, Nov 24, 2004
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from n. lee, Feb 22, 2005
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from Michael George, Jun 2, 2005
  • DOD declares movie is real   from DODRep, Apr 24, 2005
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from chet, Aug 27, 2005
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from randyn calvin, Oct 12, 2005
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from Chan Jay, Oct 30, 2006
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from espionage, Mar 27, 2008
  • The real hunt   from Conrad, Dec 12, 2010
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from Espionage, Mar 27, 2008
  • Re: september tapes - christian van gregg   from David, Sep 29, 2005
  • september tapes   from Sue Van Sant, Jan 6, 2005
  • Re: september tapes   from roger courtney, Jan 12, 2005
  • sept tapes   from bile, Jan 8, 2005
  • Re: sept tapes   from Sylvia, Feb 5, 2005
  • September Tapes   from Sylvia, Feb 5, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from susan gillig, Feb 7, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from ilija, Apr 9, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from Chan Jay, Nov 2, 2006
  • Re: September Tapes   from Nancy Lee, Feb 7, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from Nella Mellott, Feb 11, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from Richard, Feb 9, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from ragsdrichest, Feb 26, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from lisa, Mar 4, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from Just Love It, Mar 5, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from Nella Mellott, Mar 1, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from Robert, Mar 9, 2005
  • Sept 8 tapes   from niteranger, Feb 11, 2005
  • september tapes - blur people   from nadmin, Feb 16, 2005
  • Re: september tapes - blur people   from Bro. Pain, Oct 10, 2010
  • [no subject]   from myce, Feb 28, 2005
  • damn stupid movie   from ralph, Mar 15, 2005
  • Re: damn stupid movie   from Vic Ram, Mar 19, 2005
  • Re: damn stupid movie   from Lester Van, Mar 29, 2005
  • september tapes   from chris, Mar 21, 2005
  • Re: september tapes   from Hector R, Mar 29, 2005
  • Re: september tapes   from pogpog, May 27, 2005
  • Best Review Yet   from Skjellifetti, Dec 30, 2005
  • Re: september tapes   from Lee Van, Mar 29, 2005
  • Re: september tapes   from EDWARD NOVA, Apr 3, 2005
  • blind hero   from Dominik, Apr 3, 2005
  • What message?   from Jills, Apr 8, 2005
  • [no subject]   from ilija, Apr 9, 2005
  • Blair Witch redux   from Vincent, Apr 24, 2005
  • Don't hate   from scocar, Apr 24, 2005
  • Juvenile   from M_Vee, Apr 26, 2005
  • Re: Juvenile   from lee sant, Apr 27, 2005
  • Re: Juvenile   from n/a, May 22, 2005
  • Re: Juvenile   from alex, Jul 10, 2005
  • Are You Kidding?   from Sommer, May 28, 2005
  • Re: Are You Kidding?   from anogi, May 30, 2005
  • Stupid   from whatever, Aug 15, 2005
  • Re: Are You Kidding?   from michael, Oct 20, 2005
  • Re: Are You Kidding?   from Anonymous, Jun 10, 2005
  • Music....   from Gunnard Doboze, Jun 17, 2005
  • September Tapes   from Bill, Jul 25, 2005
  • Re: September Tapes   from Northern neighbor, Aug 25, 2005
  • MAKES ME SICK   from , Sep 17, 2005
  • Re: MAKES ME SICK   from George Michael, Oct 12, 2005
  • Re: MAKES ME SICK   from Jime, Dec 14, 2008
  • SEPTEMBER TAPES   from Scott, Nov 7, 2005
  • [no subject]   from Bubak, Nov 7, 2005
  • Spetember Tapes   from Benji, Jan 31, 2006
  • September Tapes   from , Feb 1, 2006
  • This movie kick ass   from Damian Rivas Valdez, Feb 22, 2006
  • Re: This movie kick ass   from travis tracy, Mar 15, 2006
  • Re: This movie kick ass   from WESTON, Mar 22, 2006
  • Re: This movie kick ass   from McKenna Mae Lee, May 9, 2006
  • Re: This movie kick ass   from Steve Van, May 28, 2006
  • Re: This movie kick ass   from Jim Sant, Jun 20, 2006
  • Re: This movie kick ass   from mary margaret Pete, Jul 4, 2006
  • REALISE THE REALITY   from b22uk, Feb 1, 2006
  • positive impressions for strong subject matter   from Kasen Courtney, Jul 20, 2006
  • Courage and filmmaking   from Broady Bennett, Jul 20, 2006
  • September Tapes   from Jami, Jul 27, 2006
  • Re: September Tapes   from may george, Aug 2, 2006
  • Re: September Tapes   from kg, Aug 24, 2006
  • Re: September Tapes   from Ray Lee, Aug 31, 2006
  • Funding ??   from marco, Sep 11, 2006
  • Re: Funding ??   from gregg lee, Sep 19, 2006
  • Tragic failure   from Jumpy, Sep 27, 2006
  • » Re: Tragic failure «   from Nancy Michael, Oct 30, 2006
  • positive impressions for strong subject matter   from Lee Babcock, Nov 4, 2006
  • Re: positive impressions for strong subject matter   from Claire Van, Jan 14, 2007
  • finally an other view   from yojimbo, Dec 3, 2006
  • Amazing film   from jon, Jan 14, 2007
  • September Tapes question? Ask me, I made it.   from christian Johnston, Feb 8, 2007
  • Re: September Tapes question? Ask me, I made it.   from Nancy Gregg, Feb 9, 2007
  • Great Find!   from Nathan Courtney, Mar 21, 2007
  • sept movie   from John & Lorri, Apr 15, 2007
  • SEPT 8 TAPES   from MARK CARROLL, Apr 19, 2007
  • September Tapes Great Find!   from Mary Loring, Apr 27, 2007
  • Hurrah!   from summer jones, May 30, 2007
  • Interesting production   from Jim Courtney, Jun 28, 2007
  • Old-Timer likes 'September Tapes'   from August Johnson, Jul 28, 2007
  • Great Find! I bought it!   from Hep Nelson, Aug 21, 2007
  • Scumbags!   from Andres Duran, Aug 21, 2007
  • Re: Reply   from James Everly, Aug 28, 2007
  • Great Find!   from Leisel Leonard, Sep 27, 2007
  • Wow! Why didn't we find this in the theatre?   from May Holmes, Nov 14, 2007
  • Re: Wow! Why didn't we find this in the theatre?   from Foreigner, Jan 11, 2008
  • Re: Wow! Why didn't we find this in the theatre?   from George Gabriel, Mar 27, 2008
  • Was the Wife on the Plane Real?   from Septem8er Tapes, Apr 24, 2008
  • Re: Was the Wife on the Plane Real?   from David, Dec 14, 2008
  • Why isn't this movie in the theatres?   from summer simpkins, Aug 1, 2008
  • Why isn't this movie in the theatres?   from dorie ;lowe, Aug 20, 2008
  • great movie.   from ma2k, Dec 14, 2008
  • WOW! I just saw this amazing film on tv.   from Mandy Jones, Dec 15, 2009
  • Re: WOW! I just saw this amazing film on tv.   from Allie Minton, Aug 1, 2010
  • loved ever minute   from kandie, Dec 31, 2009
  • Powerful movie and message   from jane clark, Sep 11, 2010